tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post8303348040844202746..comments2023-04-11T09:34:03.031-04:00Comments on Polybloggimous: This is (Sort of) about Logic & Perception.Nathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00648438549121320566noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post-47807201355337263152008-07-13T10:02:00.000-04:002008-07-13T10:02:00.000-04:00Don't feel bad, Nathan, I don't either.To the poin...Don't feel bad, Nathan, I don't either.<BR/><BR/>To the point of the post, the airlines are violating a basic rule of pricing: bundle everything you can into the base price, and show line item pricing only when you have to, and have the customer pay for everything at the time of initial purchase. If an airline is charging on average $30 for a bag, would you have noticed if they had just tacked that on to the ticket price? But making it a separate line time, and then charging for it at the counter, after the customer has the psychological assumption that the purchase is already over, is baaaad business. <BR/><BR/>A few different things (or a combination thereof) might be happening:<BR/><BR/>The bean counters are in charge and forced the issue.<BR/><BR/>The folks in charge of marketing ticket prices are in control and did not want a hit on their ability to market by price. So they shifted the responsibility for raising prices to cover fuel to another division. This would be evidence that there is no one at the top over all the various silos who really knows what is going on.<BR/><BR/>Regulators or contractual agreements do not allow the airline to raise ticket prices as fast as fuel prices. This would be stupid, but entirely within the realm of possibility, especially if the government is involved.<BR/><BR/>The marketing department is completely inept and someone who did not pay attention in business school came up with the idea of hiding the fuel surcharge this way.John the Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03467337009577733553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post-61602982368988710792008-07-13T09:13:00.000-04:002008-07-13T09:13:00.000-04:00Good question Nathan.I guess Shawn forgot to send ...Good question Nathan.<BR/><BR/>I guess Shawn forgot to send a "if you don't get this let me know" message.Random Michelle Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817444379694818074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post-60348870954656308712008-07-13T07:31:00.000-04:002008-07-13T07:31:00.000-04:00Why don't I know anything about this?Why don't I know anything about this?Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00648438549121320566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post-8407546622122727712008-07-12T23:41:00.000-04:002008-07-12T23:41:00.000-04:00Ah. You can feel free to include my email address ...Ah. You can feel free to include my email address in that - it's sitting right out on my blog, after all.<BR/><BR/>*wanders off in shawn's direction*MWThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446603415730525882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post-18025668310006030852008-07-12T23:07:00.000-04:002008-07-12T23:07:00.000-04:00MWT,if you're not in it, let Shawn know. He set it...MWT,<BR/><BR/>if you're not in it, let Shawn know. He set it up, although he may have done it from the UCF addressbook I sent out.Random Michelle Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817444379694818074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post-27664537470150322542008-07-12T21:45:00.000-04:002008-07-12T21:45:00.000-04:00MWT, I wasn't too sure about that myself, but Kimb...MWT, <BR/><BR/>I wasn't too sure about that myself, but Kimby's really busy, so I'll cut her some slack.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00648438549121320566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post-26298935247858992982008-07-12T21:40:00.000-04:002008-07-12T21:40:00.000-04:00UCF Google group?UCF Google group?MWThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446603415730525882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post-88003213821735137972008-07-12T20:11:00.000-04:002008-07-12T20:11:00.000-04:00You realize, Kimby, this means you'll have to just...You realize, Kimby, this means you'll have to just entertain the rest of us.<BR/><BR/>That means surfing the Internet to find strange, funny, and wonderful things--we haven't already found. :)Random Michelle Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817444379694818074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post-17977542924180898272008-07-12T18:15:00.000-04:002008-07-12T18:15:00.000-04:00Nathan, I have sent a message out via the google U...Nathan, I have sent a message out via the google UCF group....I am removing myself from Charlotte at this time...It is not fair of me to do something half-assed, and right now, all my time is kind of preoccupied.<BR/><BR/>Sorry.....<BR/>I am not sure who was to follow me?<BR/><BR/>(but i sure hope that the next Writing Thang we do I can be a part of..boy that sentence was poorly written..maybe it IS a good thing i step away from commitments right now..LOL)kimbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18202011517037727838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post-29868691382576699762008-07-12T16:38:00.000-04:002008-07-12T16:38:00.000-04:00I'm no expert, so I'm just going by what was on th...I'm no expert, so I'm just going by what was on the report I saw.<BR/><BR/>You don't suppose it's possible they made a mistake, do you? :DNathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00648438549121320566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-745748859173296736.post-21316073394813117162008-07-12T15:48:00.000-04:002008-07-12T15:48:00.000-04:00Actually, I think (but am not positive) that aircr...Actually, I think (but am not positive) that aircraft have traditionally been fueled at the level to get them to their destination plus a safety margin, and not much more, for exactly that same reason. Aircraft maintenance crew chiefs carefully calculate the fuel necessary based on the expected weight of the aircraft, distance required to travel, and anticipated weather and altitude conditions.<BR/><BR/>Flying with excess fuel is actually a bit of a safety hazard at landing. I've even heard of aircraft dumping fuel before landing if they have significant excess.<BR/><BR/>So you are right in that the weight of fuel required to transport fuel is a factor... but I think that traditionally it's been a pretty close calculation in the industry. Maybe they're cutting it closer still?<BR/><BR/>The charging for luggage thing drives me nuts. Until they have in-cabin luggage capacity for everying to carry a bag on - it seems to me they can't charge for all checked bags. They'll have passenger rebellion, IMHO. I realize air travel is a commodity, but the service level has gotten so low that it's crossing the line to unacceptable - that's why Amtrak trains have doubled on the Cascades corridor in the last few years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com